if you afford to buy free of bugs software - then do it

Babahun wrote:
ivo.apostolov wrote:
Babahun

Again, this is your opinion. I have a lot of friends who have no idea what HTML is that are doing well without paying anything.

Can you tell us how they are doing it?

I don't know, I am able to fix most of the problems by myself .

Stasys wrote:
if you afford to buy free of bugs software - then do it

Stasys leave it. It is easy to require when you never contributed.
You know it as well as I do, that even a simple translation (no coding knowledge required) takes huge time.

Babahun, demagogy is out ot the question. Is evident only guilty is user, his fault for not checking what he's installing on a test site before using first. If you don't know how to solve, you could, instead of lose your time and the dev one, hire someone to fix the ploblems, even better! you could hire someone to code your website exactly as you want! but, hei, wait... that would not be free... crap.

As I user, waht I do is follow on projects that I find itneresting, try them on a test site, try to contribute (nothing I'm afraid ) as much as I can and bug report for the devs, or experienced users to fix.

If you way that other people has fixed these errors, surely you could give a try to their fixes couldn't you? if you can't, nor want to spend the money on someone to do, why don't you stay with things like myspace or facebook? for sure these will not give you any problem. You can't expect in a team of 3 people, for them to start checking every user bug, some times, not caused of the program, even when it seems it is. What you think it's best, to fix the error that is only happening you (because if it's a general one, code gurus will have already find a fix and posted on forums), or to improve code to go from 250 queries to 4?

I've been following fb since it started, and never aplied it to a live site, because it had evident flaws I would not tolerate on a live site, basically performance. This said, I like a lot the project and the overall work on it, and cannot be anything but thankful to the people who offer, this buggy code, for free to all of us.

On the other hand, is evident that community relationship hasn't been a bed of roses... devs share their part (absences), moderators theirs (you knwo what I mean) and users too (me,me,me, now, now, now, you owe, you owe, you owe,... love Hook... ))

ivo.apostolov wrote:
Babahun wrote:
ivo.apostolov wrote:
Babahun

Again, this is your opinion. I have a lot of friends who have no idea what HTML is that are doing well without paying anything.

Can you tell us how they are doing it?

I don't know, I am able to fix most of the problems by myself .

Then why there are "help" posts with no replies? If your forum is working well then you know the solutions. Why don't you share them with others so their forums can work well as yours?

You can fix them because you know how to. And other people are not like you. People are different. They need more help than you do.

Because I don't have the time to do it.
Almost every single moment I have, I do that (either for Fireboard or mainly for other extensions).

No I am not a coder but I know how to fix a few things in Joomla and I know at intermediate level how to work with PHP. I'm not new at joomla I had been using it for almost 3 years since the first release and its not rocket science but the point here is that many people are getting in to the OPEN SOURCE SCENE and doesn't even understand what open source is and what are his goals. Open Source is more than getting a few friends and play to be a software developer group that in the end are just looking for money using a not well developed project as a bridge for getting a few coins. Open Source really matters for many people around the world so to anyone interested in starting a open source project first of all read about what is open source and think twice if you have the commitment to do what open source demands from each of you.

READ THIS!!! http://www.opensource.org/

Also, he may know answer to 'his' problems, that don't have to be the same as 'yours'
On the other hand, how many of these users have the fix already on the forum, but couldn't be arsed to lurk them for a fix? the little problems I've had with fb, had already been documented and fixed on the forums... Talking about bugs, not performance issues.

If you check the 1.05 SVN thread, I did a post resuming all bugs arissen (my little contribution, but being idiot, I clicked on preview withcout Ctrl+c before, blank screen cause of long post, back button, bye bye message :cry, and there where not more than 15 bug posts, mostly, not bugs, but untranslated stuff, typos and so, but that have to be fixed also.

If you are not a coder, what stops you to write a manual for Fireboard?

Don't tell me about Open Source, I have released over 20 extensions for Joomla! as GPL.